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21: Broken Promises: Pregnancy, Promises, and Jealousy: What Bridgerton Taught Us About Love and Trust

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Most promises are about as reliable as a diet at a donut shop—easy to make, hard to keep. But what happens when we start questioning if anyone’s word still carries weight? If your trust in promises is crumbling faster than bread in a hot toaster, this episode is your wake-up call. We’re exposing the real deal behind the promises we make—and break—every day, from pop culture fiascos to family dramas that hit way too close to home. Dive into the most notorious promise failures: Barbie Dream Fest’s epic letdown, promises of stability that nobody's seeing, and social media’s role in turning promises into mere memes. You’ll discover how Gen Z’s “work to live” attitude could be the smartest rebellion or just the ultimate burnout. And we break down the psychology of promises—how they’re supposed to build bonds, but more often, they just break hearts and wallets. We explore why promises matter, how they shape trust, and how a simple “I’ll try” can sometimes be more powerful than a vow. Want to know how to keep your word—without turning it into a circus? Whether you’re a parent trying not to over-promise simple joys or a friend dodging the guilt of broken commitments, this episode will make you rethink what it means to be a person of your word. Plus, we share the hilarious, awkward truths about promises made to kids—like the time I promised my son a celebration, then promptly forgot about it. Oops!This is essential listening if you’re tired of lip service, want to rebuild trust, or just need a good laugh at the chaos promises can cause. Because let’s face it—whether they’re made in jest or in desperation, promises control our relationships. So, buckle up. Your trust issues are about to get some clarity—and a few laughs along the way. A special shoutout: Our “Pinky Promise” level of credibility is pretty high, but not perfect—trust us, we’ll promise to do better, but guarantee nothing! Just like our favorite characters, we’re learning that actions speak louder than words, and sometimes, a promise is just a good story we tell ourselves. Hit play and find out why promises are the ultimate test of trust, integrity, and sometimes, just plain survival. Trust us—this episode’s a promise you won’t want to break.

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Grab your glass and pull up a chair. It's time for your favorite girls' night in.

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Welcome to Pouring in Parenting. We're your besties, Sill and Ainish.

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We're here to laugh through the chaos. Hello, Poors. Let's start the show.

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Welcome to Pouring in Parenting. I am Syl and I'm Anish. Thank you for tuning in to another another episode. Einish, how's it going? It's going really good.

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I'm well rested and today is a really good day. No complaints. Weather's nice. How are you?

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I'm doing great. It's a little bit of a chaotic morning for me, just because things are a little bit different in our routine today. I had to go to the store to get cupcakes and then I got my drink for today and I got some Mijelada mix. And has it ever happened to you when you're like shopping and you're just like, my cart has like the oddest things in it? Yes. I only had three things, but it was like all totally different things that don't go together. Yes. I was like, I wonder what the checkers think. Like she got it.

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I have definitely been there and I don't realize it until I'm putting the stuff on the Kavara belt. And I'm like, oh, this is weird.

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So okay, so let's go ahead and share our pours for the day. Oh, Anish, what are you drinking?

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I had some leftover twisted teas. I have a peach twisted tea that I poured to keep it fancy. And my cup. And I have another one back up just in case.

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What did you pour? Okay, so as part of my chaos this morning, I went to Dollar Tree and I was looking for a martini glass. They didn't have any, but they had a margarita glass. So in this margarita glass, I poured one of the three items from my shopping cart this morning, which is an espresso martini. All I had to do was like mix it up in my shaker with some ice, and I poured it in. It's good. It's a little strong. So I was just like, yeah, a little daydroned, why not?

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Yes. I love that. That's why I got my extra with the tease here.

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So right, yes.

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All right, yeah. Two hands for this one.

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Alrighty. Cheers. Cheers. Today we are diving into promises. Do we constantly make promises we cannot keep? Do people believe you when you make them a promise? Anish and I will explore promises in pop culture and with our own family. Now moving on to hot topics. For our hot topics and trends, the first one is the Barbie Dream Fest that happened towards the end of March. It's also being known as the Barbie Firefest 2.0. Now the Firefest, if anyone remembers, it was this awful planned out concert that Darul was like sponsoring or something like that. And it was just a total shit show. Yeah, fire. F-Y-R-E.

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Right?

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Yes.

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Yes, okay. Yes.

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Yeah. So they're calling this Barbie Dream Fest like a Firefest. Um because it had false advertising all over social media. Um there should have been A-less speakers, games, active exhibits, and a whole glam experience. Tickets ranged from a hundred, no, I believe from like 70 to 450 uh for an adult ticket. And it was a three-day experience. But it was an adult experience. So it wasn't just for adults, but that's just like where the tickets range. I didn't see how much um the a child's ticket was worth. Um and and I looked for myself on TikTok. So you can find this on TikTok, on Instagram, just type in Barbie Firefest. No, not Barbie Firefest. Barbie Dream Fest uh 2026, and you will see what people were led to believe was gonna be there and what actually happened. So when you think of Barbie or even like the Barbie movie, uh Hanish, have you seen the Barbie movie? Yes, with um, what's his face? Ryan Ryan Gosling. And who's that really pretty girl? I love her too, and I can't think of her name. Okay, the blonde lady.

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Gosh, what's her name?

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Margot Robbie. Margle. There it is. Go ahead. Margot Robbie. So it was Mar Margot Robbie, Ryan Gosling in the Barbie movie. And the Barbie movie is just it's pink. It's just everything that you would fantasize Barbie to be, especially if you grew up playing with the Barbie houses and the cars. And like I had all that stuff. So when I watched the Barbie movie, that's exactly like it was exactly what I pictured. People went to this Barbie Dream Fest picturing just that. And instead, they got a huge warehouse environment. There was some vendors, but it I think what went wrong was the space was humongous. It was huge. And all you see is this concrete everywhere, just with just like gray, which is the total opposite of Barbie. Yeah. You had a box-looking Barbie house. So it was not interactive. Like you could take pictures in front of it, which apparently you had to pay for. So it was totally just very misleading for the adults who bought the ticket. So it was a huge disappointment. Mattel, which is the maker of Barbie, had sold the license for a date or for this event. So like the the event was able to have all this Barbie stuff with Mattel's permission. However, it did not have the expectations that the um that the participants, the customers were uh envisioning.

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Yeah.

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And they even they had a swag bag that apparently was just like a pouch with some hand sanitizer. Wow. Like whoever came up with this definitely missed the mark for sure. Like the venue didn't have to be so big. Yeah. Just like, why set people up? So Mattel did say that they were going to be issuing refunds. Has that happened yet? I'm not sure. Um, but at least they have commented, yes, they have addressed the situation. But it just false promises, right? You're gonna get one thing, you get something totally different. And the people like flew in to this place to go for this experience and they were totally let down.

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Yeah, it's it's it's unfortunate that whoever Mattel signed off to, maybe they didn't do the proper background check, or maybe it was a legit company and they they just took advantage of the people that have a true passion and love for Barbie. And that's unfortunate. Like the same thing with the fire concert or whatever you called it. Firefest. Firefest.

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Now for our next trend, it has to do with the Gen Z. Gen Z is choosing work to live rather than live to work. So, unlike the previous generations, because there are fewer rewards for their hard work. What was promised to the generations before, such as stability, pensions, and the ability to move up, is really no longer a thing. So Gen Z has a different approach to work and their attitudes, which definitely show a lot of us feel like Gen Z, they're they're lazy, they don't want to work, they don't take things seriously. But also, it is a different time for them because fun, everything is so expensive. Going to college is showing that you're more in debt than you are like successful for the most part. Um, well, not necessarily successful, but like it it just takes time to gain the money or to do what you want to do. And you still have all this debt and they have you know the interest that piles up and all these fake promises about debt relief. And it just it costs so much money, it's almost not worth it sometimes. But there's so many things they've had to go through COVID, which we all did, but you know, being with the age gap where they were at the time, it's just kind of made things harder for them. So they're like, I'm gonna work to live, not live to work. Because clearly the rewards aren't that great, anyways. Um our prior generations typically it's been that you are you gain more wealth than like your parents did, and your parents gained more wealth than their parents did, and so on and so on. And that it's kind of gotten stagnant. It's the we're we're not there anymore.

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Yeah, I mean, I they're obviously exercising their freedom of speech and everything. I think some of it has gotten a little out of hand, uh, especially with just their mentality towards certain things and how they approach situations. The fact that just recording stuff is so big and they'll record, oh, I just got fired today and I recorded it, or, you know, watch me cuss my boss out today or something. Right. I think that social media definitely has a lot to do with it because they're seeing that as a means to it, means to an end, being on social media as a a form of income, not really understanding that you still have to put in work. And I think the generation's lazy, and I I think it's a little crazy because you don't need to record everything. Yeah, how many videos have you seen people pulling out phones instead of physically helping someone if something happens? And I hate that. Yeah, so as far as work goes, we're grind it to the end, you know, us older folks and these young folks are just trying to find an easy way out, is how I see. And then they're they're looking for excuses. Oh, I don't have to do this, so I'm not gonna do it. I didn't show up for work for three days. Why did they fire me? That's annoying. The whole this whole that whole trend is annoying. That sounds crazy to me.

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So I agree with you to a certain extent because I do feel that um people I mean, just overall, like we we've been taught you work hard, you play hard, but it doesn't always pan out that way. Sometimes you're working, working, working, and you're not getting any of the rewards. You don't get that promotion like you thought you were. I know it's happened to so many people where they're up for a promotion and they they don't get it because they they give it to someone else who maybe has the higher education or whatever and not the experience. It's just like these false promises that they get. Uh vacation time. I guess you have vacation time, but they give them a hard time when you use it. So I can see like that just being like, you know what, I saw my parents deal with this, I'm not gonna deal with it type stuff. So I I can commend them with not wanting a nine to five and maybe not living to work. But but yeah, but then I also do see some aspects where some some will take it too far and they are a little lazy. So when I in the article that I read where I got this information from, uh, that that part when it's that they were burnt out. In my head, I'm like, burnt out from what? You're not working. What do you burnt out on? Yeah. I think I don't know. I I see a little bit of like both ways, I guess.

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I can see them seeing their parents strive and struggle, but I think that also means what's your career path? And is that even where you even want to be? Maybe you're just working a job and you saw someone get the promotion, and you're in in reality, maybe that's not even the career path that you truly even want to be on. You're just doing it for the income, and then you get upset and wake up and quit one day. And so maybe their perspective on that is like, well, I don't even want to be here anyway. So peace out. Out, yeah. I can see the frustration if it's your career and someone but gets a promotion over you. The only thing I could think of is becoming partner for a lawyer or something. You don't make partner, but and then you then you leave and start your own firm. That's all the movies sell us at this point. But so I I could see if you've been promised something and then you don't get it and you want to leave. That is I can yeah, I commend someone for doing that. And you know, in any generation, if you can do that, but uh, you know, Gen Z is taking it over the top because they're gonna record that. Oh, I went in for my promotion today. Let's watch what I didn't get, and then everyone's what? Why do I see this? I'm quitting right now, you know. And then yeah. So, yeah, I get it.

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Let's get into our deep dive. So, what we discussed earlier was promises, right? That's what our episode is gonna be about. Let's define what a promise is. So, in the dictionary, promise is a binding declaration or commitment to act or refrain from acting in a specific way, establishing trust and expectation between parties. Consequences of breaking a promise include damaged relationships, loss of trust, and potential legal or or personal repercussions. And there are also four types of promises. So there is expressive promises, which are explicitly stated either verbally or in writing. So, like, I promise I'm going to call you today. Implied promises are understood through context or actions rather than spoken. Reciprocal promises, agreements where both parties exchange promises and conditional promises, which I feel like if you're a parent, you use these a lot, are dependent on a specific event occurring. So, how do you keep a promise? It requires commitment, ensuring the promise is realistic before making it, clear communication, and prioritizing the obligation. Aynish, are you someone who makes a lot of promises?

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No. Why I I just don't. I don't want to commit myself to a situation because I feel that life be life in and anything can happen. And so to put myself in the corner to literally say, I promise that this is gonna happen is not even in my vocabulary. I I don't, you know, I used to pinky promise when I was younger and do all that stuff, but I, you know, if I'm gonna do it, I'll you know, I'll I'll do my best to do that for you. You know, I mean I've said, Oh, I'll call you back and then don't, or something. It's not like I promise to call you back. I might have made a statement. It's a hit or miss. But yeah, so no, I don't I don't make promises. Can't make threats. No, I'm scared.

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Is it s oh so is it safe to say that when you do promise that it carries weight? It's going, it it's a real promise. There's no, you know, cross your heart, hope to die, or Bible or anything like that, right?

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Yes, I mean I I mean what I say and I say what I mean. So my word is my bond. If I if I say that I'm going to do something, I intend to do it, but I don't attach the word promise to it.

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Yeah.

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What about you?

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So I will say that I think my promises, the word promise at times, especially when it comes to my son, um has been thrown around a lot more than it should have. And that has gotten me into, I guess, some predicaments with him because now he's kind of like, Well, do you really promise? So now I've learned not not to promise as much. And but there are times so where I feel he hears or he assumes that I say something and it's a promise. I didn't promise actually. So it's it's gotten a little rocky sometimes uh with that word. So I've done, I know I've been doing a little bit better about throwing that word around because you're right, life happens and you know you can't control things sometimes. And so it kind of would force you to break a promise. But if you don't promise, then you're not really breaking anything, and that trust hopefully would still be there. So, what is a promise that you've been told or have told that was not kept?

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For me, again, I can't I can't remember literally the last time I've even said the word promise to anyone. My husband has made innuendos of like even rewards. Oh, if you do this, you'll get this. And to me, that could be a form of a promise. And I got upset that he did that. And we I had a discussion with him. And I'm no, we don't do that. And especially because it he was gonna reward bad behavior and just to get his, you know, get what we wanted to happen to happen. And I told him, like, no, we don't do that. Because now he's gonna try to act right because you said that. So for me, I can't think of anything that I've done for and then to reverse that, if someone's made a promise to me, I can't, you know, people say stuff that they're gonna do when they don't do it. I've had that probably happen more times. And that I guess that maybe that's why I don't put myself in situations like that because I know how it makes me feel. The older I'm getting, the the less I feel like people will say stuff to me. And I take it as a grain of salt. Like you're saying it, but you know, if you do it, that's great. If you don't do it, that's e okay. I don't even care anymore. I used to care a lot more, even just as easy as a few years ago. But I'm definitely realizing the older that I'm getting that people's words mean less and less to me. It's all about action. So that's the best way that I can answer your question.

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Yeah.

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Okay. All right, and and that makes sense. And I I definitely see what you're saying. As I was doing some research for this episode, it it did kind of come across that a lot of a lot of people, and it's not even just Gen Z, but just all generations are saying that people's work, it it really should just be taken with a grain of salt, right? Your actions are gonna speak, not so much your words. Um, so I I I get that for sure. Um and I I know I'm guilty, and maybe not so much with promises, but just saying something I'm gonna do something, and then I don't. There's that that fine line between saying something uh and then promising. But regardless, if you say something, you should do it. But how many of us are guilty?

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You know what of that. I I I do have I do have a moment that I said something and it was my word. I don't remember making a promise, but I may I I could have said it at the time. I'm thinking like 16 years ago, or well, like 15 or 16 years ago, I was asked to babysit one of my friend's sister's daughters. And I was like, yes, absolutely. I guess I thought it was a joke or something, and they were waiting for me to show up, and I hadn't even left where I needed to leave that next day to go. And I I guess, you know, I thought it was a joke when they had asked me. And I I just didn't take the moment serious. And they called me, like, girl, where are you? I was like, Oh crap, are you serious? And they were like, Yes, we were very serious. And I was like, Oh, crap. And at the time I lived like 45 minutes away. And so they had to wait an hour and a half for me to get my life together and drive out there and do what I said I was gonna do the day before. And they knew when they had asked me, whatever my answer, my response was gonna be, they believed me, obviously. And you shall do it. She said, Yes, she'll be here. Don't worry about it, it's taken care of. And then I didn't show up until they called me. And and luckily everything was fine. They we laughed about it at the time because I can't like I don't remember the exact situation or the circumstances to make me think that it wasn't real. Yeah. So where's that? That's my story. I'm sticking to it. I don't know why. Yeah.

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Okay, all right. But but you know what? I mean, it's it's a learning lesson, I'm sure, because you're like, okay, I'll definitely when if I say I'm gonna do something, I'm gonna make sure that. Like, wait, are you joking or not joking? Right now, yes, let's clear that up. You really want me to do this for you? Um, but then also you still showing up, like yes, you were late, but still held you to your word. So they probably still feel like they could trust you when you say something, just be a little more clear about the communication. Okay, this is really gonna go down.

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Yes, yeah. So I uh I still just drove out and made the drive there and got there and and babysat her daughter, and she was a baby baby too. But so yeah, so like I said, at the end of the day, my word is my bond. I don't make promises. If I say I'm gonna do something, I plan on doing it.

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Yeah, I I broken promises to my son. It was me putting my foot in my mouth, basically. I shouldn't have promised. I think one of the things was taking him to Baskin Robins. And I don't remember why, but it was one of those additional promises, like, oh, if you do this, I'll do that. And I couldn't, something happened. I couldn't take him. I think I was like really tired, or it just it wasn't gonna happen. And he was so upset. And I was like, I'll take you tomorrow. I'll take you tomorrow. I promise. I'll be like, there he goes on the promises again. But this time I felt I really had a promise for him to believe me and kind of leave me alone at the moment. So eventually I did take him the next day, but that's one of those things I was like, you know what? Like I need to make sure that I'm watching what I say because he's young and I I don't want him to grow up thinking you can promise and real and not keep it. I don't want that to be a thing for him. So do you ever feel that you are questioned when promising something to others?

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I don't. If I make a statement, since I don't, I just don't think I say, do I say promise? Have you ever heard me say promise? I don't think so. I'm questioning my my own thoughts right now. But if I say that I'm going to do something or show up or be somewhere, then I really don't feel that anyone's ever questioned what I said. I feel that I get invited to places and like off-the-wall locations. Hey, meet me in Dallas in a week or two. Okay. Yes, I'll be there. And and I say that as an example because my sister asked me to meet her in Dallas. Or, you know, I think I asked her and I'll I'll show up. And she showed up and we met in Dallas and we saw Chris Brown. I bought the ticket within two weeks and it happened. And so I feel I'm just the make it happen friend. And if you're feeling adventurous, I feel I'm that friend that people will call because they know that Anisha's about that life. If I call her and say, hey, we ride at dawn, okay, we ride at dawn. Who, you know, who are we riding on? So no, I think that I can confidently say that I feel that my husband, my friends, my family know that if they approach me with something, be very serious about it because I'm going to say yes.

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And I'll be there. And I will say you are that friend who's like just down for whatever. So I think growing up mainly, we used to, or at least I remember saying stuff like, all right, you pinky promise, and you had to like connect pinkies and like even kiss your thumbs, you know, swear to God, swear to God, you're not lying, you know, or Bible, you know, I heard Kardashians. Kardashians, yes. And then, you know, cross your heart, hope to die, and you know, stick a deep bullying in your eye, yeah, and then no crossies count, type of stuff. All those like childish things. But is there anyone? And it might even be me at this point, but is there anyone where you feel like as a grown adult, you need to ask them? Like, you know, do you print your promise or you know, you swear, and you know, you know, as adults, we really don't say you swear to God anymore, right? Don't you swear to God? But like, do you still feel that at times as an adult where you're just like, you're promising, but yes. I don't know.

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Again, I don't feel that I don't think any of my friends say promise. But if as an adult, you know, like you said, we don't pinky promise and do all that stuff anymore. Again, as I'm getting older, the I don't I feel that people's word isn't their bond anymore in my circle. And I still love all y'all, but I don't trust half of y'all, or more than half at this point. And again, I'm realizing that the older that I'm getting, and it's getting to the point that I know who to invite or who not to invite. My sister's word is her bond. If she says she's going to do something, she'll be there. And that's one person in my life that we mirror each other. It could be we're the same sign, too. So I don't know if that has anything to do with it. But yes, are there friends out there, you know, black and white to answer your question? Absolutely. There are absolutely friends that if pinky promising as an adult was a thing, I would pinky promise all of you but my sister.

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Hey, that's fair. Yes. What about you? So typically, no, like between like us, we don't we really well they say you don't make any promises. And so we're good. I think the only thing is like, and I know you wouldn't even promise, it's like, can you be on time? You know? So, and you know, it was one of those things, you know, when I would like pick you up from your house and you take like 10 minutes to come outside. You know, it's like can't like I'm not gonna be there until you know you tell me you're already outside. I'm doing better. But I mean, that was like one of those things. But other than that, I don't think so. I husband, he's really good with his word. There is this one thing, and I am gonna mention it on here, okay. There's one thing that I can think of where he, you know, he he claims to be a man of his word. And 99.9% of the time he is. If he says something, it's gonna happen. But it was like one of those conditional promises. We got turf in the backyard. I didn't want turf. I like the fresh green grass, but he was having battles with the gophers that he was constantly losing. Finally, okay, but if we get this turf, I want like an outdoor kitchen. Like I want like the grill with the counters and all that stuff. Because you know, I am trying my journey of becoming a barbecue master. And he said yes. He told me that would happen. And we got the turf, and I didn't expect to do it right away. Like the turf, you know, it was a little pricey, so we would have to like save up for. But then as time is passing, I'm like, hey, hey, you said. And he's kind of like, well, you know what? Like, you're not even gonna use it that much, blah, blah, blah. Had all these excuses for me. And I'm like, okay, maybe I don't use it every day, or maybe I don't use it every week, but I will for sure use it at least once a month. Okay. And if you get some good food out of it, like, it's fine. So I still to this day do not have my outdoor kitchen or grilling area, whatever you want to call it. And that is the one thing I can think of where he did not keep his promise. Other than that, I really don't feel like it too much. Now, when it comes to my son, that's different. I'm gonna need you to pinky promise and Bible and crush your heart and all this stuff because he he turned out a lot like me, unfortunately. So with him, and we I'm trying something new. So, one of the things that that made me think of this here episode is that we were at church and our pastor, our pastor, he made a comment about promises and how one day his daughter, and this was like a long time ago, but his daughter like came up to him and like he said something to her and he she was like, Do you promise, promise? Because clearly one promise was not enough, right? Like when you regularly promise, it might not happen. But if you promise, promise, then you might actually follow through. And that's when he learned, like, I gotta be careful with what I say because clearly I'm making an impression. Like my daughter doesn't trust me, doesn't trust my words. So when I when I heard that, it made me think of my own situation with my son because I know there's times where I have, you know, without thinking, just said the word promise is thrown out there. And now that my promises, I feel like don't carry much weight when it comes to him. But to teach him that, you know what, I'm not gonna promise anymore. Um, unless it's something really big, but like I'm not gonna promise, but I'm gonna try my best. You know, I'll try my best to, you know, take you to Baskin Robins, or I'll try my best to, you know, have you hang out with your cousins this weekend or whatever the case is, because you know, the promises, you know, it they turn to broken promises and then we'll lose trust. But if I say that I'm trying, you know, I'm gonna do my best, then hopefully he'll he'll see that and he'll know, like, okay, I didn't, I didn't guarantee anything. I didn't guarantee you were gonna get that ice cream, or I didn't guarantee that you were gonna see your cousins, but I I did try. And then also teaching them that life happens, that you have to be flexible because things happen and we don't always have control. And therefore, these kids need to learn that that flexibility, you need to be flexible because sometimes these things are gonna happen. There's nothing at their age, there's really nothing you can do about it. You just gotta go with the flow with whatever mom and dad do. So, once again, when I heard that at church, I was like, you know what? I know I'm guilty of that. And I'm also I I wanna show my son something better. So we've had we had that conversation. I was like, you know what, Benny? Like, I'm gonna do my best to not promise you um things anymore. Um, because I I I want you to trust me. And I don't mean to lie to you. Like I don't mean to break my promises to you, but sometimes things happen and you need to learn that life happens, and you also need to learn that you can't promise everything because not everything can be not every promise can be kept. Right. So yeah, so that's that's where that came from. And I know that I need to work on it. So and things like I'm not a liar, like that's that's one thing I kind of like pride myself on as like I I don't lie, but sometimes stuff happens that kind of like will force me in that direction, but it wasn't like a direct lie, like it wasn't a a lie that I meant to to say on purpose. It was more like a situational type thing.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And so I that's me trying to teach my son, like, hey, don't make promises you can't keep. And even then, like when you make even like in in your case, like if you ever do make a promise, or when you make a promise, something can still happen that'll make you like force you to break that promise, but it's not it would be something more situational and not intentional.

SPEAKER_01

Right, yeah, absolutely situational. I'm thinking about just based off what you're saying, there's when we're potty training, kinda sorta. And I told you already the kid, the kid, the baby will get a treat when he goes in the potty. And oddly enough, both of my kids enjoy those kinder eggs. And we've been so that's their treat. So if he does his due diligence in the potty, he'll get an egg. And but he'll try to take oh, I peed in it. Can I no, you gotta do number two, sir. And if we run out of eggs, which we have, because we've we've found actually at Sam's Club, they have a big ol' enough to last a minute. We're getting like six packs or something, but uh we have a bigger, a larger variety now. But uh he if we didn't have one, yeah, I have to, hey, we gotta go to the store and buy buy some more tomorrow. We don't have any right now in this moment. And he's looking at me, but I pooped in it. Where's my egg? Why aren't they on deck, these eggs? And you know, even at his little baby age, I'm teaching him life be life and and we just ain't got no eggs right now. We ran out. So I got you tomorrow.

SPEAKER_02

Even realistically, like eventually there's gonna come a time where you're not gonna get it every time you poop.

SPEAKER_01

Right, exactly. That part too. Thirteen years old, mom, I pooped. Where's my egg? Where's my egg? And so I mean, so you we've had moments like that to where we don't have any, you know, we forgot to stock up and they're like, but hey, that's what you told me I'm going to get whenever I do this. So why isn't it ready and available? And then I go, uh, because I didn't buy any more just yet. So we have moments like that, but not. But yeah, you're right. Eventually it's gonna stop. Calm down. Good luck for that time. I know. Yeah, because you'll pee a little bit looking for an egg. Sir, she would not get an egg. Oh my egg. So crying about an egg, but but no, yeah. I think the being aware of of your situation and being aware of your actions is amazing. And change just changing it just a little bit, tweaking it a little bit can absolutely change the outcome in the end. So I think that's great that you you're recognizing that and tweak it a little bit and teaching that to Benny to understand life be life and kid. People are gonna make promises and break promises. And you know, you're like you said, you're still waiting on your your your stage to cook.

SPEAKER_02

My outdoor grill. Your outdoor grill one day. One day, I hope, especially after this episode. Right. God didn't forget. Get that girl. But all right, it is time to get into our sing to me segment. So, for anyone who is new to our show, the way it works is I will ask Anish a question based on some song lyrics. The goal is not only that she answers the question correctly, but that she sings it back to me correctly. And then we'll switch and vice versa. Okay, so I niche. Are you ready? I never am, but let's go for it. All right, SWV. Okay, in their song week, lyrics are in my condition, she doesn't want what? To be alone.

SPEAKER_03

My gosh.

SPEAKER_02

Wow. Ladies and gentlemen, that is like a record. She didn't sing everything to me first, every other line first. Holy guacamole.

SPEAKER_01

So where's the confetti? Where are my balloons?

SPEAKER_03

There it is. Yay! Yay, me. All right, wow. I was about to start sweating until I wasn't.

SPEAKER_01

Well, the next one's hopefully harder. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02

Hopefully. That one's easy.

SPEAKER_01

All right. Okay. In the song Maria Maria, performed by Carlos Santana, featuring the product G and B, where did Maria grow up?

SPEAKER_00

Growing up in Spanish, hard love. She's living life just like a movie star. Maria Maria.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, ma'am.

SPEAKER_03

Correct, correct. Yay. Dang. Ooh. That was easy.

SPEAKER_02

Excited for this next one. Okay. Now, in Ashton Martin music, Rick Ross says he loves a nasty girl who swallows what? I know Rick Ross is your guy.

SPEAKER_01

He's my guy. I haven't heard any of his music in a minute, though. Okay. He loves a nasty girl who swallows. I don't know. I'm thinking dirty, but I'm like, I don't want to say something dirty. He doesn't even say that in the song. She's swallowing a beverage? No. I don't know. Yeah, are you scared to say? I'm thinking piped, but I don't think that's it.

SPEAKER_02

So seems like you lost this one. Stumped me. Rick Ross says he loves a nasty girl who swallows what's on the menu. No.

SPEAKER_01

My down bitch, the one who lives by the code. Oh, it's been so long. But you know, it's it's funny that you even chose him because you're right, I am a fan. But on my throwback Thursdays, now that I'm thinking about it, they don't play Rick Ross. It's more like it's further back that they play. Like 90s. Um for my throwback Thursday. It could be the artist though that I'm choosing to play to that I'm even really thinking about. But okay, okay, well played. Well played. Well played. All right. Here you go. Good luck. How sure is Lomo about her new love and her song Forever?

SPEAKER_02

So sure. I I don't know. I don't even know the song.

SPEAKER_01

I don't think I know the song. You know, I don't know what I thought your answer was gonna be. I I'm lying. I thought you would have gone a different direction. I didn't expect that direction. Once you hear the answer, that is your final answer.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, because I have no idea how that song even goes.

SPEAKER_03

Now that love's taken over, I'm a hundred percent sure that it's me and you for life.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, now I know where you're talking about. Yeah, that nothing. I mean, I guess I could have said 100% because that was probably easy. That's what I'm saying. But it's too easy. That's why I said so I'm so sad.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so the answer was 100% sure. We're one for one today. Today, we're one for one.

SPEAKER_02

Yay. For us, let's go ahead and go into our last segment of the day. We are at Bridgerton. Now we have been recapping episodes one at a time. We are going to do two episodes today. So episode five and six, which are really good if I say so myself. It's um, yeah, I wanted to keep going. I watched the episode six this morning. And I was like, I really want to watch the next one. But no, I held back, especially because the way it ended. Oh man, there's a lot to unpack here. Yeah. So, Ainish, do you want to start us off with episode five?

SPEAKER_01

So, episode five of season four, titled Yes or No. So apparently, one of the first things that I noticed is that we're late to the party because the most common word in Mayfield is be my mistress. That's how they started off the episode with the voiceover person yapping at us was be my mistress. And so immediately, since that was one of the first things that she spoke to us, our British speaking lady is Billy Andrews. Julie Andrews? That's the actress. She states that, she makes that known, and I'm like, okay, I'm immediately thinking that that's what we're gonna be talking about within these next 50 minutes or 65 minutes, however long the episode was. And Benedict wrote Sophie a letter talking crazy, like, sir, you can't get the hint. Not you asking her to be to figure it out, yes or no? You didn't give me an answer. Oh my gosh. What's taking so long? Oh my gosh, let's go meet somewhere. And I had to pause it to make sure I read all the words. And Sophie burned the letter because why are you playing in my face? That's crazy. Did you not get the I love her? She bought that life. You know, you're a girl's girl. Like, quit playing. You know, I like her too. I really do like her. And she burned the letter. And I have been a little annoyed that she hasn't said anything, but also, sir, figure it out. I'm learning more about you because I'm I I should have known about you, but now I'm in real time learning who your character is and who you are and your family and stuff. So she's moving. I feel like she's moving accordingly now at this point. Mama Bridgetan did her thing. Uh Sophie at this point now is also trying to figure out her next move because I can't, we clearly can't be in the same house because your your intentions are annoying because you just told me that you're looking for the loved woman, or you didn't just tell her, but she knows that because of Lady Whistledown. But yet you're already planning your demise with this woman that you claim to love, and you've had your in-law, put it in the the paper. And here you already trying to have a mistress, sir. No. And then the last thing I'll touch base on is his brother-in-law, Benedict's brother-in-law, when he was talking to him about Sophie and what's the problem? What's going on? Why can't I get this girl? And he's like, sir, you need to really Are you an idiot? What are you doing? And the one thing he said was navigate her feelings. Or I think that's what I wrote. I don't know if he said that, but I wrote down navigate her feelings. So I think he said something around that line of figure it out. What are you talking about? That you asked her to do that. Get out of here. So that's that's my take. Or my summary, if you will.

SPEAKER_00

Right.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. So, and and I agree, like he his words, like he just really wasn't freaking getting it. Like, you asked her to be your mistress. Who wants to be asked that? Nobody. Okay. And being in her position, like, really, like, I can't move, like, mistress is like as high as I can get. Like that fucking sucks.

SPEAKER_01

So I'm gonna stop you though. I think everyone wants to be asked a mistress, mistress, though, in that time, right? She's just different.

SPEAKER_02

If you're in the main, if you're a maid, right? If you're in that stat. Okay. Yes. Yes. So don't say not everyone, but yeah, but yes, I get what what you're saying. Yes. So, but yeah, she she is different, but also her background, her who she is, her mother was a maid. Okay, she is a little a little illegitimate child. So being who she is, I also think that I know that that comes into play when she's just like, no, I know what that's like. I am a product of that. But he doesn't know that yet. But even if he doesn't know that, like you can't just think you're all high and mighty. Oh, I asked her to be my mistress and she's upset. What? You're not even married, first of all. So how dare you ask anything your mistress and not your wife? Like, you know, and mind you, like that wasn't that couldn't have been the thing in that time frame, but there had to be better words he could have said. Like you could have said something better. But I think he just got so caught up in seeing his friend being so in love with his mistress that he thought he was impressed, but like, oh, okay, like that's how I'm gonna get Sophia to ask her to be my mistress because of society. No, she's not that type of woman. Thank goodness. This would be a whole different story.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Which turned out to be a poop show, his friend's mistress situation because of Lady Whistledown. And she got mad at Lady Whistledown because she exposed their love affair, that particular woman, and knocked on the door. I'm like, Yeah, she did. Right after the message.

SPEAKER_02

She wanted Penelope to feel sorry for her, but it's like you chose to be a mistress, no one no one made you, and you guys went out in public. Like they were out in public, and maybe not in the most high society places, but everyone regardless, you're out. Yeah, everyone already knew. Yeah, uh Lady Whistledown just made it official. Yes. Yes. So it episode five ends with um Benedict and Sophie. Well, actually, let me go back a little bit. So towards the end of the episode, when Benedict gets to the ball. Um Hyacinth, I don't know how to say her name. Hyacinth? The little little daughter, uh the younger sister. Hyacinth. The one that's about that, like she's really like her debutant ball. Yeah. What's her name? Yeah, hyacinth. It's H Y A Synth. Hyacinth.

SPEAKER_01

That's not right. Whatever you're saying, I ain't right. Don't sound familiar. Is it? Is what you're saying? Why don't I see it? Oh, hyacinth. Oh, hycens? Hycenth? Is it hycent? You wrote hycentth?

SPEAKER_02

Hycens? Yeah, but I don't know if that's how you were saying it. I don't know how to say it. Okay. All right, so I'll just say the younger sister. The younger sister has her debutante football. They're like practicing, and Benedict shows up. He knows he's gonna run into Sophie. Sophie starts to not feel very well. Um because she sees Benedict. No, Lady Pennywood showed up. Or her stepmom. Her stepmom showed up. Lady Pennawood shows up with her daughters, and Sophie feels sick, right? She needs to disappear. So she goes upstairs. Benedict sees her, and he's like, What's wrong? And they end up going to the room. They have this big old conversation. He confesses his love to her. She also responds that she loves him, and they end up making love in the room. And mom chased him down too. I was like, Don't you do that? Yes. So right before, right before Benedict chases her, Miss Lady Bridgerton finds, you know, finds him on the stairs and is like. You need to stop. Like leave her alone for her sake. Like she's more worried about Sophie, really.

SPEAKER_01

Because she figured out her identity.

SPEAKER_02

Right. Exactly. And and so she he and then so Benedict kind of blows up and is like, Oh, you think I don't know what you're doing with, you know, Lord Anderson, you know, in the same house as our, you know, my siblings are in, blah, blah, blah. You know, so he kind of like blew up on her, which was like out of line. Like she is a grown-ass woman in her own home. Okay. And, you know, there you go upstairs and you have sex in the same room. It's still her own. Sir. But uh, but yeah, so then he meets Sophie in the room. They have some words and they exchange the I love to use, and then they finally have that intimate moment. And that's kind of how it and no, actually, Alice Mondrich, who is now the new lady in waiting for Queen Charlotte, does witness what happened, you know, or at least comes to an idea of what happened in that bedroom. And she could say something about it, but she ends up keeping it to herself. Um, and we'll learn about that a little bit more once we get into episode six. Actually, really quick, before we get into episode six, uh we done we need a touch base on Francesca and Michaela. So that ends up being a little bit of a bigger storyline than I expected it to be based off episode six. So Michaela is Francesca's husband's cousin. She kind of doesn't Francesca doesn't really care for her too much. She kind of feels like she takes a lot of John's time, but they're able to finally move past that initial awkwardness and they become friends. Then moving on to Penelope. Penelope in episode five, she asks Queen Charlotte to allow her or give her her blessing or approve approval to stop writing her columns. And Queen Charlotte says no. But she's telling her, like, since I've exposed myself of being Lady Whistledownly, it's not the same anymore. It's it's different, people look at me different. You know, she got approached in her own home at this point. Like it's just kind of carrying a lot of weight on her.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I actually changed her name, and she writes as an alias was my thing that like say she quits and it's done, and then somebody else comes up, but it's still her. You know, under a different alias is what I feel like she should do. That she loves some.

SPEAKER_02

I like that you said that because that will lead us into episode six. So in episode six, and this was like kind of towards the end. No, no, no, it wasn't towards the end. There's like the mid-episode where Penelope goes back to Queen Charlotte, and she kind of has like a a speech that I like to say to her, and basically how the queen feels trapped within her own castle and not being able to be out in society. That's how she feels trapped, and she feels like she traps other people who can't live their lives because at any time Lady Whistledown could write about them. Whatever it was that she said nudged on the Queen's heart, I believe, because we learned that the Queen did allow Penelope or Lady Whistledown to go ahead and write her last column, which she did, and she distributed during the new Lady Pinwood, Pinwood, during her pink ball, that she had her pink pink ball. And that's where everyone got the news at the same time that Lady Whistledown would be no longer. But when Penelope goes back to the Queen to let her know that it was a success, like letting people know that she wasn't gonna be it anymore, she the Queen does say, I look forward to your future writing or something like that. And you know, hopefully getting your gossip still.

SPEAKER_01

I do think that maybe that's what's gonna happen. And I think that she'll just go under an alias because she loves to write. And I uh her and her husband had a moment, I think, to where it seemed like he was kind of proud of her, I guess. Right for doing that, but I do think that that that's what she should do is just be her own alias and keep writing. Yes. One thing that I was also thinking is that Sophie might be pregnant because she keeps checking the calendar. Yeah. I noticed that she was checking the calendar, and oh my girl, is she pregnant or no? I I think she thinks she's pregnant because she keeps checking the calendar. Yeah. That was he was her first, and now she's freaking out from my perspective.

SPEAKER_02

So continuing with episode six, Sophie is fearing that she's pregnant after her night with Benedict. She fears being a mistress. She she has her own history when it comes to being an illegitimate child. Um, she knows what bringing a child into the world could mean for her and for her child. But Benedict is like promising her. Okay, promises to love her. He suggests escaping to the countryside. But there's just so many, so many obstacles for these two because of Sophie's social status that it seems like Benedict is willing to overlook. But Sophie, being who she is, is like, yes, I know you're promising. And here I go with that promise again. I know you're promising, but at any time you can change your mind. You're gonna want that family that you could bring home to your mom, that you could put out in society, while me and my child have to be on the back burner, just like Sophie lived her life. So I see why she has those fears and doesn't necessarily trust Benedict, even though Benedict's like, I'm telling you, like, like I promise. And she's just like, no, it's not good enough, right? Yeah, so I I get it. Anthony and Kate returned from India with their baby Edmund, which was so cute. Oh my gosh, that baby was so adorable. But Anthony spent wasted no time in confronting Benedict about his recklessness with Sophie. Clearly, he got the information from his mother. Yes. But they get into it, and Sophie actually hears the conversation. And I I know that's kind of what led to her kind of trying to break things off with, yeah, I guess trying to break things off with Benedict because of that conversation that she overheard. Um, Anthony's basically like, you know, come to your senses, like you're gonna be hidden from society. Like, I could cut you off now, but I'm gonna give you the opportunity to not make me look like a fool. And luckily, I mean, I feel like what Benedict said in that scene was not wrong. Like he was standing up for his relationship with Sophie the entire time. So in my head, I thought Sophie was gonna find that admirable. But she took it, she it's like kind of like she didn't listen to what Benedict said at all and just focus on what Anthony was saying about how it was not correct and how he would not have he would not be able to bring his family around. Should they bring a child? You know, how could you look at your child knowing you did what you did, you know, because it will be illegitimate. So I'm sure that struck a chord with her because she's illegitimate. And finally, he does, you know, they meet at the little like garden spot where they you know hung out that first night. Uh and that's where she kind of like breaks it off with him is like, I'm going to work somewhere else. Like this is it's just not gonna work. Like what you know, you might want a family one day, and I'm basically I'm not gonna stay around for that day to happen. Um, and then she tells him that she's not pregnant, but I wonder if she's lying.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, I wrote down that she is pregnant, she for sure is pregnant. In my notes, I wrote, She's pregnant, her cycle her cycle never came, is what I wrote down. Because he opened up about being fluid. And I was surprised at that. So he opened up about being fluid, and then I wrote, damn, the honesty is in the air, was my notes that I wrote down. But then I wrote down she's pregnant, she's lying, she's definitely pregnant, she knows she's pregnant, which is why she felt that you know that was the perfect time to say I'm leaving because it's time to go because I miss my monthly. Right.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I I think she is hiding something. I do think she is pregnant. Um, just like, God, that one time, really. But that's how it'd be, you know. Um, so I did I did kind of feel bad for Benedict um at the end because you know, that she like calls, you know, their one night a mistake, and he's just like, please just call it a mistake. And I feel like it's like the other way around. Usually it's the guy like, oh, there that was a mistake. You know, but it was her saying he was just like, please don't call it that. But he really does love her. But I also thought there was a scene where he was kind of I don't know, just like looking through the door or you know, from the door at um his mother and Oh, and Lady Danbury came in. Yes, Lady Danbury comes in. Yes, and he's like kind of like watching his mom with um Anthony's son, and it's like at that moment he realizes like that's never gonna be me if I stayed with Sophie. So it I thought at that point he was gonna like disappear. Like, oh yeah, like that was a mistake. I shouldn't have said that to Sophie. Like, I actually want this. I thought the opposite really interesting.

SPEAKER_01

I thought that if anything, he he probably realized that he loved her so much that he was probably willing to fight for their for their love.

SPEAKER_02

Because he's like I don't know, I thought it was pulling on his heart strings, like seeing like because he was like, it brings my family so much joy to see like my my brother's son. So I thought, like, oh, maybe he might want that one day for himself.

SPEAKER_01

But he already knows that where he's at, he's not, you know, that's like the that's like you know, King Charles and right now. Right, exactly. And I think that his thought was like, oh, they already have him, they already have the air, so let me fight for this because you already got what y'all want. So even if there's still like two other brothers, exactly.

SPEAKER_02

So ask towards the end of the episode where they meet up for the last time, Sophie does tell him that she was an illegitimate child, that her mother was a maid, her father a nobleman. And that's why she has those fears. So I think Benedict kind of can understand her more. Luckily, it didn't push him away or anything, but that just makes Sophie more comfortable with her decision of trying to end things with Benedict because she already knows how that goes. Like you know, you're promising me, but not that your word means nothing, but your word means nothing. Like you can break it at any time because who am I? I'm just a maid. At the end of the day, Sophie will suffer way more than Benedict will if the relationship does not work out. So I'm torn for her. I really am because I I want them to have their happy ending. Then at the very end of the episode, something totally from out of the blue happened. I don't know if you thought you were expecting it at all.

SPEAKER_01

I knew something was wrong. That's what I wrote. I wrote, I knew something, I literally wrote that. I knew something was wrong.

SPEAKER_02

Oh no. I didn't think that. I thought maybe he would have a condition. I didn't think it was gonna be just so sudden. Sudden. I didn't think if you don't know what we're talking about. I didn't think it was gonna be sudden, but I knew something was wrong enough. Yeah, so Francesca and John Sterling, you know, they're in their home and you know, they're working like on a puzzle with uh Michaela, his cousin, and he kind of was like, okay, like, you know, I'm done. I have a headache, you know, maybe it's partly he keeps blaming it on Parliament. You know, this is the not the first time that we hear him that he has a headache. Mind you, I didn't think anything of it the first time. This other time I was like, I do something might be going on, right? But but so he tells Francesca, I'm gonna take a nap. Please wake me up, like before dinner or something like that. So Francesca goes into the room, she's trying to wake him up from his nap, and unfortunately, John is no longer with her. You hear the screams. Yes, she screams, and you know. But honestly, like I I don't know, I'm hoping that he didn't die.

SPEAKER_01

But after I'm thinking that maybe she's I think that he passed, and I think she's probably pregnant now. You think so? I think she got pregnant because I'm not sure if it was episode five or six, but they finally talked about their intimacy issues and they, you know, they connect on a deeper level, and I think that's all they needed to openly have that have that discussion. And so my thoughts are that he passes, but she wakes up pregnant.

SPEAKER_02

So we will see how episode seven goes about because there's so much going on, I think, with almost everyone's life. Um yeah, so your prediction is you have two predictions. You think that Francesca's pregnant and Sarah's pregnancy. Everybody's pregnant. Everyone's pregnant.

SPEAKER_01

Everyone's pregnant, you'll get a baby, you'll get a baby. Everyone's pregnant, everybody's getting babies in season four of Bridgerton.

SPEAKER_02

Everyone's getting a baby. Yes. So next episode we will be sharing episode seven and eight. The final season, or excuse me, the final season. Stay tuned. Oh my gosh. I might binge watch it after this.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, I uh I'm with I'm right there with you. I'm right there with you. So we can talk about that next next episode. So stay tuned if you're predicting with us or watching with us at this point, or you watched it already and just want to hear our thoughts about it. Yeah, our take. Our take. Yeah, put, oh, they're so wrong. Right. No spoilers either if you're listening. Don't you go DM DMing us the answer?

SPEAKER_02

Please don't. Oh my god. So, with that being said, whether you are working on promises, make sure that they are realistic, they are intentional, and you follow through, or a simple, I will try my best will suffice so you don't come off as someone who does not keep promises and people don't have to pinky promise you anything. And if you're following us and our Bridgerton recap, please make sure you stick around for the family next week. But once again, thank you for listening. Make sure you follow us on Instagram at pouring in parenting. You can always press the send text link on Apple Podcasts, on Spotify, iHeartRadio, wherever you listen to us, there is a link where you can send a text to us. We will get that. You can DM us, reach out to us with anything you might want to share, you want us to share. We are here for it all. Absolutely. So thank you for listening to Pouring and Parenting. Where SIP happens and we pour about it.